Graham Wilson - To pee or not to pee
14:29 | 03 Jun 2009
To be honest, if you add up all the extra costs that could be incurred, it costs on average approximately £10.00 to £15.00 more to travel with a standard BA flight and is not worth the hassle of online check-in only and having to watch what luggage is being carried.
Ryanair would definitely not be my carrier of choice.
FeeBee - Value for money
14:53 | 03 Jun 2009
Agree with Graham: if you look at the bigger picture costs, it really doesn't cost much more to go with a regular airline. We've all been brainwashed into thinking that we can get to fly anywhere we want for a pittance without taking into account that airlines are businesses and their primary duty is to their shareholders. If we aren't paying enough in the ticket price, of course they will make up the difference anyway they can.
I've always felt I would have to be desperate to fly Ryanair.
Of course Tony could be right: O Reilly is a supremely canny pr man - and we're all talking about Ryanair aren't we?
Nick - On the point of ridicule
14:56 | 03 Jun 2009
I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. Customers will eventually get fed up with the sneaky pricing and lack of service.
I just use BA because I'm fed up to arrive in the middle of wilderness or their pseudo "near town centre" airports.
S G
15:03 | 03 Jun 2009
What would really be funny to see.
1) Throwing up in the isle, my suggestion would be do it at the furthest possible place from your seat.
2) Stags are known for peeing anywhere, what happens when they just pee in the isle!!!
Once you paid for you toilet visit, wouldnt you just stay in there all fight? There is more leg room then sitting in your seat, you can stand up, freashen up etc... Only suggestion would be get in there first!!
John Lacy - Small price to pay to make a statement
15:16 | 03 Jun 2009
Yes I'd pay £1.00 to pee on Ryanair as long as I'm allowed to pee over the greedy prats in their boardroom.
David - Pays yer Money
15:19 | 03 Jun 2009
There are (still) plenty of airlines. You pays yer money and takes yer choice. Free market is all about choice.
James - Double up
15:29 | 03 Jun 2009
There is a simple solution. Buy a large coffee then pee in the cup, put the lid back on and ask for a refund so they will take it away (equiv.. flush). They won't question it because it is still warm (you just say it tastes bad but that you don't recommend they try to confirm it! (Even say it tastes of piss as goes the expression). They'll give you the refund and then you'll have had free coffe and toilet break :-)
snoekie - Taking the Mick or P***
15:31 | 03 Jun 2009
I have never flown Ryan, but this seems to be economy end of economy economy class, economy on services, economy on health issues, not allowed on land businesses, and economy on cabin environment as a result and economy on health issues with evacuation of bladder, bowels and stomachs anywhere.
Presumably no water or other drinks on request.
No, never my choice, but then I generally fly long haul, and they don't do that, do they. But wouldn't even do medium haul.
Mike Greenland - Ryanair fees
15:33 | 03 Jun 2009
Annoying though they are Ryanair has brought down prices overall. Thought EasyJet is much more civilised about everything they do. The big carriers are catching up on price, look around and shop around and look at the whole price.
Never forget that the likes of BA, Lufthansa and AirFrance would still be charging £500 for a return to Europe as they were 10 years ago if it were not for the low cost competition.
Jilly - Lost luggage, delays then cab fares to get to location
15:34 | 03 Jun 2009
I travelled Ryanair to Dublin a few times from Luton and after they "forgot" to put my luggage on my last flight with them and then informed me that they would only do so on a flight the following day if I travelled out to the airport to pick it up, I vowed NEVER again! Also, you get a different class of traveller on their flights and I prefer to be allocated a seat on a plane, surely this should be done on all flights for safety as they can at least confirm who was sitting where if the plane crashed. As for the PAYING for priority queuing.... They are a disgraceful airline, I wrote to complain (they do not take calls) and never even received a response, despite a copy being dropped personally at the Finance Directors home in the town where I live.... sums up their contempt for their customers!
James - he's got further to go too
15:36 | 03 Jun 2009
I am sure it has crossed Michael's mind to strip out all seats, gut the aircraft and pile bodies 30 deep, remove all windows, and add roof racks for luggage, as well as gliding the aircraft without power for final descent to save fuel.
Richard Hardy
15:49 | 03 Jun 2009
I wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire!
Biggles - James - don't joke
15:58 | 03 Jun 2009
James, Don't go putting things like that down where anyone can see them. There's a good chance that Mad Mick reads this stuff. Next thing you know it'll be policy!!!
I agree that Ryanair has to be your last resort to get somewhere.
If RYANAIR is the acronym - what does it stand for? (BA was always Bloody Awful)
alan franklin - Crappy idea, crappy airline.
16:24 | 03 Jun 2009
We made the mistake of flying with another of these so-called budget airlines, Thomson.
We like to save money but, as others have pointed out, we didn't. We also had the flight from hell.
The flight went out of Luton early so, to avoid the M25 we stayed at a truly awful but overpriced hotel, the Ibis Luton, probably the worst and most overpriced dump I have ever stayed in - and we travel a lot. They couldn't even manage a clean sheet until we asked. This racked up £75 in bills. Then came a taxi, another few quid.
Thomson at Luton is a joke. Our luggage exceeded the 20 kg limit by 6 kg and we racked up another £75 of costs!
Yes, we had already paid for a luggage allowance, plus a tenner to sit together, plus - you could go on.
We didn't buy their overpriced food or drink and were crammed in with argumentative passengers - I thought I would have a fight to break up at one point.
Ryanair's boss thinks he is smarter than the rest of us, but there is nothing smart in being ripped off. These airlines are bordering dishonest the way they load on the "extras." What next, a charge for teir air?
No way will we travel budget again. I will go BA, American or any other airline where the seats have some room and service is still available. It doesn't even cost more, once you add everythning up! So-called budget flights are becoming a great big con.
reluctant user - I wouldnt...
16:47 | 03 Jun 2009
Would I pay a Pound to pee on Ryanair? I wouldnt pee on Michael O'Leary if he was on fire.
I live in Cork. We used to have BMI Baby and three flights daily from Cork to Gatwick which is more convenient than Heathrow as my folks live in Brighton. Along came Ryanair and also put on 3 flights daily at almost zero cost. The route was so over-serviced that planes were empty so BMI and Easy Jet quit the route. As soon as they did Ryanair cut the service to once daily and jacked up the prices.
I am also sick and silly of the "charge you for everything extra" game such as paying for your ticket. You can only book online and have to use plastic so how come you have an unavoidable fee for that? Just quote me the total price at outset and have done with it.
Also 15kgs luggage allowance? Since we have to fly to UK to go to most places if its a long trip 15kgs is not enough, so I use Aer Lingus to LHR in preference everytime.
£6 extra for priority seating? What a joke that is too. Half the time Gatwick bus you to the plane as O'Leary wont pay for an airbridge, and then everyone gets on together. Isnt charging for a service you dont supply a form of theft?
Ever tried to find a way to contact a person via Ryanair website? Good luck.
I have always said if there was an emergency landing Ryanair staff would be standing at the top of the exit chute charging you to use it.
Easy Jet were so much nicer to deal with. Now I have to use Ryanair on occasions as so much difficult to get to LHR from Brighton when you pass Gatwick to do it, but as a matter of choice I do and will use Aer Lingus every single time I can.
Big tom - we get what we deserve
17:25 | 03 Jun 2009
The trouble with cheap airlines is that it encourages people to holiday abroad who really shouldn`t be allowed out of the country.
How many here have been embarrassed by their fellow countryman on holiday ?
I swore many years ago that after my first `cheap` break that never again would i mix with the low lifes that ab-use others hospitality. Since then we`ve rented houses/villas. Until recent years when we British took our second / holiday home ethos abroad and now to rent, from a brit it costs a gezzillion £`s a week.
ED - I had a good Ryan Air Flight
17:26 | 03 Jun 2009
Just flew in a couple of hours ago from Toulon, South of France on my first ever Ryan Air Flight, the aircraft was new and clean, I had an emergency row to myself and the return cost was £171.41 inclusive of flight £70, tax £55, luggage allowance £20, admin £20 and priority boarding £6.
What amazed me was how many people bought things on board. That so many people couldn't survive the 110 minute flight without buying food, drinking and scratch cards was a complete eye opener.
I imagined as a regular BA flyer no-one would actually pay for such nonsense, but the truth is they do. So why not charge for a loo, the more they spend, the more they subsidise other travellers and increase profits for their shareholders.
By contrast my train journey from Stansted to Liverpool Street cost £44 and was in a dirty National Express train, maybe Michael O'Leary could look at that after Aer Lingus.
steve - O' Really ?
17:48 | 03 Jun 2009
I don't thnk O' Reilly has a clue when it comes to building brand values and the damage his rantings cause. I think his PR is crap.
I'm in the camp that feesl that all of Ryanair's advertising is mis leading with its headline 'from' rates and the extra charges are nothing more than a scam to get to the real cost.
I won't fly Ryanair on principle and sincerely hope ( he) gets found out by more people. Good luck if there is only one loo on the aircraft as the stewards will have more than coffee stains to clear up !!
richard allan - ryanair
18:03 | 03 Jun 2009
I'd rather walk than fly O'Learys miserable airline. Sooner or later he must surely get his
just desserts. Reasonable people do not accept the sort of treatment that ryanair doles out .
Mike Gray - You can't screw the customer for ever.
18:59 | 03 Jun 2009
When Ryanair floated on the stockmarket, I was advised to buy some shares. I remember saying "no way, any company whose business model involves treating customers with contempt cannot survive".
Well, I've been wrong so far. 'Cheap' fares have overcome the customer's distaste for Ryanair's policies. It won't last. I'll be right one day. O'Reilly will keep pushing until his company falls off the cliff.
Doug Dickson - within the guidelines?
19:55 | 03 Jun 2009
Does the CAA not have a guideline for min amount of toilets per seats on planes?
S.Disgusted - Peed off
20:24 | 03 Jun 2009
Try peeing in the air, or should it be into a bottle. What's the corkage charge ?
S.Disgusted
20:26 | 03 Jun 2009
Try peeing in the air, or should it be into a bottle. What's the corkage charge ?
peter scarrott - rubbish airline
20:56 | 03 Jun 2009
I wont fly Ryanair under any circumstances.
Where did we all lose our sense of real value for money and started to accept a rip of mentality of under priced goods and inflated extras
Thank god they are losing money , maybe they will go bust, and serves them right
Or maybe they will come to their senses and sack him
GamaMax - Piss
21:19 | 03 Jun 2009
Is this the time to fly.;...with Ryanair. Adjust your flies. You could go down in the centre of the
plane - yes sir, it's an Airbus 30y7, one when down recentiy in the Atlantyic. The box seaid it was the smell of Chlorine.
Who didn't spende uno Euro?Aadyb8
Mark Roughley - PR Stunt
09:01 | 04 Jun 2009
You would hope this is just a PR stunt....although I heard a employee from his communications team trying to play this down yesterday....he must be a liability to work with.
We have to stop this mentality of " profits at all cost ", it just doesn't work, it doesn't help society and it's dangerous ( as seen within banking ).
The role of regulators ( and politicians who hire such Quango members ) must ensure that common sense and old-fashioned values prevail.
Mike
10:38 | 04 Jun 2009
For me Ryanair is already an unpleasant last resort. It seems it will soon become a none option.
Douglas B - Lot of hot air
10:45 | 04 Jun 2009
Seems there is a lot of comment this time from opinionated folks who have never actually used the service. I use Ryanair every week and the service is brilliant. The flights are ALWAYS on time and often land ahead of schedule. The staff are very courteous and helpful. The planes are new and clean. Legroom is actually quite good compared to others.
You just have to learn the rules and work the system. Most weeks you can still find flights (I travel to Pisa from Scotland) for €5 INCLUDING TAXES AND CHARGES (or rather with no taxes and charges). Dont take a hold bag, buy your own sarnies before you board, dont buy anything on the plane. Steal the magazine and you can actually fly for a small profit. If it comes to it in the future, dont pee or puke up.
Nice thing about Ryanair is that you can leg them over just as much as they leg you over. Work the system and its an unbelievably cheap way to travel.
The only problem with the airline is the neausating dickhead who runs it and, as others have commented, seems to be a complete liability to the business, not only with his rigiculous statements and hairbrained ideas but also recently with 'green' investments - Aer Lingus!
LoCo Supporter - Fact or Fiction
10:47 | 04 Jun 2009
The advantage of the LoCo is when you can book early and take advantage of the early prices, which naturally increase when you get closer to your travel date.
Paying to P... or obtain a sick bag is great to get you into the limelight (Publicity) but practically its a non starter, as is removing toilets to be replaced with seats.
Ryanair sells on its aircraft after 5 years and by removing toilets the value and desirability of these aircraft are reduced.
Also approval would have to be obtained from the IAA with the appropriate charges, not to mention the aircraft down time and loss of revenue.
Basically its uneconomic.
Publicity that keeps you in the public eye is great especially if its free.
M.O.L. is an artist at getting free publicity.
Ian Phillips - It's free to rant here!
10:56 | 04 Jun 2009
I really don't understand what all this ranting is about, especially from people who have never even used Ryanair.....
Ryanair have simply split the necessary from the unnecessary. It is necessary to fly passengers safely and efficiently from A to B and Ryanair do this in modern Aircraft. Anything else is unnecessary so they make it an OPTIONAL extra, if you book online, checkin online,pay with an Electron card, take onboard luggage,and don't buy anything onboard you get the cheapest flight. If YOU can't manage without the unnecessary then, no problem, YOU pay for it.........or maybe you think I should subsidise you?!
Bob - Conman
10:58 | 04 Jun 2009
Does Michael O’Really travel by RyanAir? I doubt it.
S G
11:02 | 04 Jun 2009
They are interested in profits just like any other company. Before budget airlines came along, airlines ripped off passengers with prices.
How is it flights on major airlines like BA etc have halved or in some cases even a 3rd of the prices a few years ago???
The major airlines are now facing difficulties with their profits, so what is happening, they are cutting costs. They cant up prices as this
is being kept in check by budget airlines. How long will it be before other airlines starting charging for services??
I chose to go with Ryanair in a months time with my partner, why? Because I managed to save almost £250 compared to going with the next cheapest airline.
Yes I will have to put up with crap service for a couple of hours, but I have an extra £250 to spend while on my holiday, so we have a better hotel and can
plan to do more activities then we had originally planned for!! Now if we had been a family of 4 that would have been £500 saved!
It is everyone’s choice who they use, where they fly from and too. Sometimes, budget airlines do not work out better off in terms of money. Then in that
case, fly a decent airline, but sometimes you can grab an absolute bargain which is too good to miss. Again it might be a crap flight and service, but normally
you are talking a couple of hours! Sometimes you are on hold to companies for almost that long!!!
TONY - HASTED
11:31 | 04 Jun 2009
It's a rubbish airline publicity stunt or not,it would be a whole lot better with a realistic fares instead of all the sneaky add ons.
Percy - What Larks!
11:57 | 04 Jun 2009
Back in 1995 I flew Exeter-Dublin with South West Airlines (or some such). As I walked to the plane my escort asked if I minded small aircraft (I didn't). It turned out to be a 6 seater propellor job. It belonged to the pilot. He liked to use it when there were fewer than 5 passengers. We were 4 altogether.
We had a lovely low level flight and I recall our pilot serving coffee.
But it took over 2 hours and, of course, there was no toilet at all.
By the time we reached the airport 'facilities' I was desperate, not having prepared for this situation.
At least Ryan Air does have toilets, uses fast jets and is cheap. My day return flight of '95 cost £235.
Phil - Ruinair
12:01 | 04 Jun 2009
Of course it's a publicity stunt. O'Leary knows full well that the highly-profitable sales of onboard drinks would plummet if there was a bog charge. More sinister, perhaps, is that such outrageous, OTT declarations tend to soften us up for yet more mad charges that will be introduced. Not long ago, it was inconceivable that any airline would charge for putting a bag in the hold, for checking in for the flight, or for the "privilege" of sitting next to other members of your party... but these are now the norm, and not just for Ruinair.
My only experience of them was when four of us (family) flew to Carcassonne for £100 return, including taxes - you can't argue with the price, and in fairness, both flights were on time, on new aircraft.
I gave a wry smile at a comment about "if it weren't for budget airlines we'd still be paying £300 to fly to Europe..." Last week, I flew on business to Cologne from Manchester with Lufthansa, on the cheapest available fare (non-flexible Economy). I booked and paid for the flight months ago. A shade over £400. Grrrr.... In a sense, I got value for money, because the only way to do this journey is via Munich - and if you check a map you'll see how insane that is. Horrible nasty little Avro commuter jet with cramped seats between MAN and MUC, a ham or cheese roll (free) and a drink (free.) Awful. And expensive. So please don't kid yourself that full-service airlines are generally better. They're not. Same meagre seat pitch in economy as the budgets, and pitiful service levels with high fares.
Easy Jet and TUI fly are generally better than Ruinair, but it's important to recognise that if a flight goes tech or is cancelled, you are on your own... that's what you get. If I travel for a client, it's because they need me there on time, ready to get to work, else it costs them money, so they require me to fly on scheduled airlines - if it's my own money, I'd use a budget carrier or a charter flight every time.
Steve Thomson - £1 pee
19:02 | 04 Jun 2009
Pay a £1 for a pee on a Ryanair flight? No way, but I'd pay a £1 to pee on Michael O'Really!
Colin - No Way
19:16 | 04 Jun 2009
I wouldn't even pay a pound to fly on Ryanair. What a joke they are.
SteveH - Taking the P**s
16:57 | 05 Jun 2009
I can see the logic in charging passengers for hold luggage, where those with no luggage not only weigh less, but use fewer resources (baggage handling etc.), or perhaps charging really fat passengers for their extra weight (and the additional room they take), but charging for the toilet is ridiculous. First, everyone has to use the toilet, so no one is excluded. On the ground (e.g. some railway stations), where there is a charge for using toilets, one can usually walk somewhere else to relieve oneself, but in the air that isn’t an option. There ought to be a legal minimum of toilets on all forms of transport where toilets are provided – they don’t have to be gold plated, but they should be free and clean.
There comes a point where the cost of basic travel facilities, and toilets are included in this, should be included in the basic price. If you want extra things, then maybe these are the things that should be charged extra. I think most people could understand and agree with that.
Peter Jenkins
11:57 | 07 Jun 2009
I ask those who are slagging off Ryanair
Have you ever travelled on the airline ?
If your answer was yes, Why are you so unhappy ?
WPAonCB - Good Idea
17:43 | 07 Jun 2009
What a good idea. It would stop all the disturbance that these pee'ers cause and make them think twice before fuelling up before take-off with booze.
I could add some further ideas.
1. £1 for sqawking babies
2. £5 for noisy babling adults
3. £1 each time they go into an overhead locker for those fumblers who seem to need an endless stream of things.
It is HMG that is to be watched for escalating airport charges and imposing ever more airport security nonsenses just becasue we are fighting wars in Islamic countries that encourage terrorism. Far simpler to have Muslim only airports and planes.
stan rolls - health and safety
10:02 | 14 Jun 2009
Over the last 30 years we have in one way or another been sick and tiered of the H&S regulations, well this is one way we can use it to our advantage and insist the H&S E stick their nose in and outlaw such Crap (excuse the pun) idea's from the daft IrishMan, Take a holiday ORealy it sounds like you need one, Go by EasyJet they know how to treet customers.
Stan the man
jordan young - crap
19:47 | 14 Jun 2009
i think its stupid
Tiago Aprigio - What about the other lowcost?
12:41 | 21 Jan 2010
We are all talking about RYANAIR fees, Rynair service etc etc.
The truth is that all of the named low cost airlines have exactly the same "priority boarding" fee....we still have to pay for the food and in the other we see our flights canceled evry single day!!
Thsi thing of charging toilets will never happen in flights longer then 1 hour and I don't believe it will in shorter flights.
Charging for sick bags?? Not a chance! Blowjobs in longhall flights? yeah right!
C'mon they really the best in on time flights and if you ever lost a bag in a Ryanair flight, you really are on in thousands!
Eventough the food is a bit overpriced onboard you can always have your own snacks! can't you?
To fly from here to there in a really good price, and a good service for me onboard, FLY RYANAIR!
Think that they made it all change. The reality of flying is now much much much better priced in all of the companies!
:)