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Nest and Webb clash over IFAs’ role in auto-enrolment

by William Robins on Feb 16, 2012 at 10:24

Nest and Webb clash over IFAs’ role in auto-enrolment

Pensions minister Steve Webb may have provoked the ire of advisers in claiming small business will not need to seek auto-enrolment advice, but the National Employment Savings Trust (Nest) is putting IFAs back in the picture.

Webb (pictured) last month claimed small businesses should not spend money ‘unnecessarily’ on advice because the majority of qualifying auto-enrolment schemes will be very similar.

If the value of advice stopped at the point of purchase, he would be right. However, Nest believes there is an ongoing reason to pay the fee. It has painted a different picture of advisers’ role under auto-enrolment, arguing small businesses will begin to regard IFAs as one-stop tax and pensions shops, dealing with everything auto-enrolment throws at them.

Employers are making preparations

Helen Dean, managing director of scheme development at Nest, says that, following the government’s recent confirmation of the staging timetable, auto-enrolment will start to move up the to-do list for all employers, even the smallest.

‘We are currently working with over 130 employers,’ she says. ‘They all certainly rate ease of use as their top priority right now and they want to be sure they understand all the features of the schemes they may use for automatic enrolment, as well as be sure they comply with the law. That’s where advisers might come in.’

Even with easy-to-use schemes such as Nest and its low-cost competitors, such as NOW Pensions or the construction industry scheme from B&CE, there will be scope for advisers to take on the role of the administrator on behalf of the employer.

‘Businesses of all shapes and sizes often ask for help in filing their tax returns and accounts,’ says Dean. ‘Dealing with the pension scheme under automatic enrolment may be one of those areas where some of these employers will appoint a professional to administer on their behalf.’

Jason McGuigan, financial planning director at Oxford-based IFA and accountancy firm Critchleys Chartered Accountants and Business Advisers, says a number of employer clients have started flagging up their need for help with auto-enrolment. ‘We have more small employers looking at whether they should set up something now, in advance of their auto-enrolment deadline,’ he says. 

However, he warns that IFAs will need to be careful how they price auto-enrolment advice if it is to be profitable, arguing it could be ‘high volume, low profit’ work. Nest reckons small businesses are willing to pay to have pensions taken off their hands. The smaller they are, the more valuable that service will be; but if it is too expensive they are likely to take Webb’s advice instead.

5 comments so far. Why not have your say?

Martin Hayward

Feb 16, 2012 at 10:54

Just how many small employers will want 'free' advice, who will they turn to, lets think now...mmmmmm

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Duncan Carter 2

Feb 16, 2012 at 11:30

Having sat through Scottish Life's presentation recently, looking around the room and listening to the questions being asked by other advisers I would say the average small employer is going to have a nightmare with auto-enrolment.

It is anything but simple [funnily enough what with it being about pensions in the UK] and firms are really going to struggle with it.

Our decision is whether to bother getting involved beyond our existing client base as the time, efffort and risk may very well not be worthwhile from a commercial perspective.

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Julian Stevens

Feb 16, 2012 at 11:39

Perhaps something else the empire-building MAS could take on? I'm hanged if I'm going to go anywhere near NEST.

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One Shot Bwana

Feb 16, 2012 at 12:24

I left two messages on different days with the NEST helpline stating that I was an IFA needing to claify some points for an employer . Unsurprisingly the promised phone calls never came......

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gary moody

Feb 16, 2012 at 12:43

employers claim ease of use is their top priority? i'm sure they would if the question was worded that way but, if not the employers, then definately the employees would state retirement benefit from good performing funds would be their top priority as it should be.

nest is VERY expensive in the early stages (their having to pay back the huge loan we've had to give them to set it up) but my biggest concern is the cautious stance of the available funds - based on the fact that if an employee saw their funds fall in the early stages, they might stop contribution and opt out. it amazes me that webb is more concerned with short term wins for such an important decision

i wonder if he has any personal pensions, whether they are in as cautious an area?

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