Morning Line: when will MPs lead by example on pensions?

And while they are at it scrap the grace and favour pensions that the PM, Speaker of the House and the Lord Chancellor get!

When pigs, who currently have their noses in the trough, fly?

These turkeys, MPs will not vote for Xmas (for taxpayers) to come before the next administration gets into power and will continue to postpone, and if the other lot, they will stall and prevaricate until pigs grow wings.

I have little doubt but that Cameron will force through strong conditions for MP's Pensions in the future on a basis nowhere near as beneficial as at present. The only way of telling whether he goes far enough is to see how many nominations there are for election to Parliament in the future. Assumed prestige is great but in reality many candidates might think twice if they cannot see enough gravy.

While they are at it with the axe, get the MEPs & their very generous remunerations into the line of fire!

I bet they will find some mechanism that prevents their own perks from disappearing - that is why they choose to govern, so they can exempt themselves from the laws they impose on us.

Trust me, there is going to be a bloody revolution, wait till the trade unions get in on the act!

The likes of B Crow will be regarded as milk maidens, when faced with the really, truly disgusted TU leaders - Serwotka, here he comes!!!

If you are looking for a good example leading the Country into restraint on Public Service pensions, then you are wasting your time. As demonstrated over the last Parliament the House is largely populated by Careerist pocket liners. Some are even reaching the Courts for criminal deception. Their tax avoidance has reached state of the art, and their claims for expenses are couched in greed ,and when denied they become abusive in the extreme to the staff. Nothing will happen to their Gold plated superannuation, even if somebody had the Temerity to suggest it. All the time they are allowed to vote themselves Tax payers money they will go on and on helping themselves.

It seems to me that David Cameron is just another Tony Blair - but better at the spin. All he has done to date is go back on every Conservative pre election pledge Yet again tax middle income earners are being taxed by stealth . 1st through child benefits ( that he said pre election he would not scrap) then lately through taxing our pensions by reducing the amount of controbutions we can make.

As was the case with Labour it looks like the Con Dems have neither the will for public service cuts or the courage to implement them in the light of probable severe union unrest. Consequently they are taking the easy way out ( as all politicians do ) of increasing taxes. How I miss Margaret Thatcher.

I have already commented on similar subjects that we have become a nation of wingers. I will join wingers unite if MPs pensions do not follow the precedent of civil service pensions if indeed they do follow Huttons recomendations.

Everyone speaking with the same voice, however I am led to believe that the rules on MP's length of pensionable servise has quitely been changed very recently from 40 years to 15 !!, is this is correct ? if it is it's brilliant reform at it's best, ie MP's looking after there own interests again.- REMEMBER WERE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

They have also found a way ( for the older MP) of still travelling First Class by using there Snr railcards which means the amount they save falls in - line ( sorry about the pun) with the highest amount that is allowable, which I think is £ 190 ?. shame we no longer have railway cattle trucks,they could all be put together with the peace and quiet they say they reqiure,the last time I walked through the first class carriage,the local MP was fast asleep with a copy of the Time's newspaper on the table which he had been reading,and before anyone starts to think the poor chap must have been in the house working late, this was 11 30 am on the morning train to Kings Cross !! - I rest my case.

All these so call protected pension arrangements need to be scrapped forwith,you lead by example not take advantage of a corrupt scheme, bring these people into the real world.

All MPs are a buch of theiving gits - but then some animals are more equal than others!

Let the many take the pain whilst the few enjoy the gain!!

All MPs look after themselves irrespective of colour when it comes to pensiopns and salary increase. When prime ministers spout to the public it is just for public consumption, the real decision makers are the mps themselves and with a small or no majority there is little Cameron can do, otherwise he will have a revolt and loose power. With his love of power including Clegg they will do anything to stay in power and use the silly excuse of saying we are doing for the country to cut the deficit down. There is no leader strong enough yet to tackle the mps generous pension. T.Blair with his vast majority in the first election should have done a lot but missed the opportunity because of his love of power and for me he failed and Cameron/Clegg are no difference. We are not all in this together, Cameron, boy George and clegg should have started with MPs, senior civil servants, high earners and the public will warm to their actions and welcome on actions taken on the middle classes and the working class to cut the deficit.

It seems to me that many do not realise the game that is being played out. Cameron or anyone else for that matter cannot afford to alienate all those he relies upon to stay in power. The only people who will suffer in all this is the ordinary Tax payer. He is scared stiff to Rock THE BOAT in Parliament. Just like Blair?Brown keeping the public sector sweet and ever expanding. It goes under the pseudonymn of PATRONAGE. Look it up it is something akin to BRIBERY.

"We are all in this together"! If this has any credibility lts essential that parliamentary pension schemes comes into line with the vast number of other schemes that have closed their final salary schemes and have switched to a money purchase scheme. Within that a taxpayer contribution of say 8% of salary would be acceptable. Anything else and we can hardly be expected to have anything but a continuing contempt for these people.

Whenever the press refer to a group of MPs or MEPs why not just show the photograph at the top of this article? Isn't a picture worth a 1000 words?

While they are targeting public sector workers, they should line up before the public sector workers, to set a good example.

Change the nature of politics: ie no late sitting, ergo, you will not have to pay them extra for travel expenses, or 2nd home expenses either - very few of the public sector workers get travel allowance, none of them get the perks for the duck pond, or flipping of second home - these are all measures they should undertake before they target the ordinary public sector worker!